bleeding knows

I noticed that if Essendon lose against Sydney this weekend they will have lost to every side this year - just 6 short years after beating every other team.

Would this be some kind of a record in AFL? Vfl history? And how about the other way round (i.e. from easybeats to near unbeatable)?

Go pies!

bleeding knows

It's good to see Collingwood finally face some decent opposition, and not a tired side like WCE were a week after their derby. Collingwood have now lost to Adel, WCE and Melbourne. They have Sydney to lose to next week.

Little Elvis

bleeding knows

I just saw that Elvstroem's little brother, Haradasun, won the first at Swan Hill yesterday. Anyone see it? Was it a good win?
I just read that this may be the plan. Could a horse win the Slipper first up? It sounds bloody hard. Are there any precedents?
This was in Friday's Melbourne Herald-Sun. Interesting!

Makybe Diva and Nathan Brown go with the flow

Michael Warner
02dec05


A REVOLUTIONARY recovery treatment has emerged as a secret behind Lee Freedman's spring carnival success and the rapid recovery of Richmond AFL star Nathan Brown.

Makybe Diva was among several horses in the Freedman stable to benefit from BodyFlow technology on her way to a third straight Melbourne Cup victory.

Brown also credits the technology – which runs a specific electric current through damaged muscle tissue – for his speedy recovery from broken tibia and fibula bones in his right leg, suffered in Round 10 this year.

Freedman and fellow trainers John McArdle and Tony Vasil have used specially designed rugs fitted with electrodes to quicken horses' recovery times between races.

In a signed letter witnessed by the Herald Sun, Freedman said he had seen recovery results in 20 minutes that would normally take 24 hours.

"Some blood results from pre and post-BodyFlow technology have been quite remarkable," Freedman wrote. "It is my impression that BodyFlow technology will greatly contribute to a horse's recovery."

The technology has been approved by Racing Victoria chief steward Des Gleeson and RV head vet John McCaffrey.

Brown, who has a 32cm titanium rod in his leg, has used BodyFlow three times a week since breaking the leg in May.

"I noticed a difference pretty much after three sessions – the swelling came right down," Brown said. "My leg was twice the size of the other one. I'm no medical expert, but it seemed to get the swelling and blood away from where they operated."

Melbourne-based BodyFlow managing director Luke Vassallo has the worldwide distribution rights to the technology, which was invented by a French doctor.

The $25,000 machines are manufactured in Germany and were recently adopted by famous Italian soccer club AC Milan.

Medicos for the Socceroos have asked to trial the technology when the squad assembles again in February before the World Cup in Germany in June.

St Kilda star Fraser Gehrig, Melbourne Storm and Wallabies players have also begun experimenting with it.

"The technology is unique, world-first and non-invasive. Trainers like Lee and footballers like Nathan have already seen its benefits," Vassallo said. "This is just the beginning of a multi-faceted medical revolution."

BodyFlow is the subject of studies at the Garvan Institute in Sydney and Flinders University in South Australia.

The sports arena has so far been the biggest beneficiary of the technology which was designed for the prevention of Deep Vein Thrombosis and for the treatment and management of the debilitating disease lymphoedema, which causes swelling to parts of the body.

Former jockey Simon Marshall is part of the BodyFlow management team and is a true believer of the science.

"It's going to revolutionise the racing industry because when it comes to horses, that little edge makes all the difference," Marshall said.

HOW IT WORKS

BodyFlow uses a specific electronic frequency, a replica of the one present in all mammals that targets smooth muscle (tunica media).

Smooth muscle runs inside the wall of arteries, veins and lymphatics.

By stimulating this muscle group, BodyFlow promotes or enhances fluid movement in the right direction.

When there is an excess of fluid, blood or toxins associated with injuries, BodyFlow promotes drainage from the affected area, enhancing, or speeding, the recovery and healing process.

RIP Rubiton

bleeding knows

Apparently this star of the Australian track and breeding barn was put down yesterday. Very sad news.

Bell Flight, wake up!

bleeding knows

Dear Bell,

Have you even noticed how much of a pest you're being right now? People are starting to punch their monitor when they see your avatar and puerilities.


1. Re: Bell Flight V Camel 56 by Bell Flight on 14/11/2005 2:04:28 PM
N3S0 = swoosh, whirrrrr, YEAHHHH!...
2. Re: Bell Flight V Camel 56 by Bell Flight on 14/11/2005 12:56:32 PM
Naughty Naughty mentioning her - you've been told....
3. Re: Legends of LUCK by Bell Flight on 14/11/2005 12:28:17 PM
Grat racing analysis and insight there, bleeding nose. Well done....
4. Re: Bell Flight V Camel 56 by Bell Flight on 14/11/2005 12:07:51 PM
What a great number 3 is in racing... MD = MC3 N3S0 S = 3 of nothing of any note other than the above! lol ...
5. Re: Legends of LUCK by Bell Flight on 14/11/2005 11:03:17 AM
Hopefully, there's be no protests, because we know news of them filters through slowly to some people doesn't it? lol...
6. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 14/11/2005 10:59:08 AM
The three certainties in life at Randwick a few years ago were death, taxes and Lonhro. Now they are death, taxes and you not being able to resist replying to EVERY SINGLE POST I make on this site with some tripe about "Bellinda" or "dribble" or "plod ...
7. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 14/11/2005 9:56:56 AM
"Wrong as usual Bellinda. I continue to give you a toweling because, blocked or not, I know you will read it and no doubt respond with yet more dribble. It really is funny how more and more people come out of the woodwork to speak out at the utter rot you...
8. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 13/11/2005 11:35:08 PM
Plod56 has conversations with someone who he believes has blocked him. Bleeding nose has conversations with Speedy who hasn't even posted in this thread or even visited this site in the past week. They really are a 'dynamic duo' aren't they! lol Hit...
9. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 13/11/2005 7:36:06 PM
It's even more tragic that you direct posts to me thinking I have blocked you! Do you talk to the walls at home? lol ...
10. Re: Determining The Top 9 by Bell Flight on 13/11/2005 5:37:23 PM
1. Makybe Diva 2. Better Loosen Up 3. Northerly 4. Might And Power 5. Saintly 6. Super Impose 7. Sunline 8. Octagonal 9. Lonhro On record alone MD has to be top ranked. On pure ability and "what if", Better Loosen Up is the best horse I have se...
11. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 13/11/2005 5:29:48 PM
If you say so Plod... yet here you are 3 years later following my "rediculous" (sic) "dribble" around the internet, post for post. Very sad. Hitchcock clearly doesn't know the WFA scale....
12. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 13/11/2005 3:22:20 PM
Enlighten me then Hitchcock! Or is it your sole purpose on this site now to tear Makybe Diva down? Maybe you did your dough as well like the Professor, Dawson and bleeding nose did? lol...
13. Re: Legends of LUCK by Bell Flight on 13/11/2005 3:19:25 PM
You sell Northerly short Gary. Taking a line through Fields of Omagh, with LUCK Northerly would have won 4 Cox Plates!...
14. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 13/11/2005 12:43:17 PM
Might & Power won his Cup carrying 2kg less than WFA. Kingston Town lost to Gurner's Lane carrying 1kg over WFA Makybe Diva won her last Cup carrying 2.5kg over WFA. Just a little perspective! ...
15. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 11/11/2005 9:14:37 PM
I feel sorry for you people who have come to this site since Tuesday last week and dissed Makybe Diva. In 20 or 30 years when your kids ask you "Dad, did you see the legend, Makybe Diva?" What will you say? "Oh yes, I did!" But in the back of you...
16. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 11/11/2005 3:50:41 PM
13 "facts"? lol More like Slowline Jones' 13 steps to being totally irrelevant! A foolproof plan for total irrelevance! hehe ...
17. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 11/11/2005 3:47:33 PM
What are you on about Grandma Yawn? What's is your point Cox Plates v Melbourne Cups? Oh, sorry, you're just taking pot shots from the side again without any value add or original opinions of your own? Carry on then....
18. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 10/11/2005 10:01:42 PM
Hitchcock, you've lost the plot comparing Sunline's Doncaster and Makybe's third Cup! ...
19. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 10/11/2005 9:56:41 PM
Honestly, I can't believe this thread has turned into a discussion about Lonhro. He wouldn't even make a list of the Top 100 horses. He won an Aust Cup and a Caulfield Guineas for goodness sake! Enough already. ...
20. Re: The Best 25 Ever by Bell Flight on 10/11/2005 7:02:51 PM
Spot on Muirfield. Going into bat for the Diva and her record is like drawing a royal straight flush from the deal in poker. The others can bluff, but you know YOU CAN'T LOSE THE GAME! ...

Derby Day quiz, part 2

bleeding knows

10. Name the last horse to run in the (VRC) derby like one of its parent.

11. Who's the last Derby runner to have had its mum also run in the race?

12. Who is the last Melbourne Cup placegetter to run unplaced in the VRC Derby?

13. Since 1990 which VRC Derby has the most G1 winners in it? (including group 1's after the derby)

14. When was the last year the 3 Caulfield Guineas placegetters also raced in the VRC Derby? (it's a while back)

Wakeful

15. When was the last year where none of the Wakeful placegetters managed a place in the VRC Oaks? Who won the Oaks that spring?

16. Who is the last filly to place in the Wakeful and win an open age G1 AS A MARE in Australia?

17. Which Wakeful winner had lost her previous 5 starts before the Wakeful and won her next 3 starts all at Group 1?

18. Who is the last Wakeful placegetter to throw a Group 1 winner?

Mackinnon

19. Who is the last Cox Plate winner to miss a place in the Mackinnon?

20. Which horse won the Mackinnon, Newmarket and the Stradbroke - all in separate years!?

21. Who is the last horse to win the Mackinnon and the Australian Cup in the same season?

Salinger

22. Who is the last Salinger winner to win again at Group 1 level?

23. Who is the last Salinger winner to win the Newmarket in the same season?

24. Which half brothers won this race in the 90's?
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25. What year did David Hayes train 6 winners on Derby Day?

26. Who is the last horse to place 2 years in a row on Derby Day


Derby Day quiz

bleeding knows


1. Who is the last (VRC) Derby winner to never win again?
(Derby means just VRC Derby in all these questions)

2. Who is the last VRC Derby winner to race in that spring's Cox Plate and Caulfield Guineas?

3. Who were the last full brothers to race in the Derby? Their names?

4. Who is the last Derby winner to sire a group 1 winner?

5. Who is the last Golden Slipper winner to run in the Derby?

6. When is the last year both the derby placegetters went on to win Group 1's?

7. Who is the only derby winner since Second Coming to have a name more than one word long?

8. Who is the last derby winner to be a multiple group 1 winner BEFOREHAND?

9. When was the last year where all three placegetters won again in their career after the derby?

New staying "champion"

bleeding knows

You have to laugh. I saw a newbreaks on channel 9 calling Plastered a "staying champion". I look forward to the latest "staying champion" after the main race on Saturday.

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